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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:50 am 
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Pontius_Pirate wrote:

Hal mentioned digging up his father's head on p.17.


Ack! How'd I miss that?
*facepalms*

Of note: he also refers to Gately at that point.
"...Donald Gately and I dig up my father's head..."

My humblest apologies for the rant. :oops:
I'll just chalk it up to the detail tornado that I was facing as a first foray into DFW.

Thank you for straightening me out on that.

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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:54 pm 
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Pontius_pirate, thanks for reminding us that the skull-digging is mentioned on p.17. I *knew* we had come across it already (I'm a first-time reader too), but couldn't find the exact mention. And now I also know that Gately was there with Hal, so they must know each other or meet later.

And thanks to the poster who defined Lactrodectus Mantans. Cool. There are lots of bugs in here.


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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:11 pm 
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bloatedsack wrote:
Pontius_Pirate wrote:

Hal mentioned digging up his father's head on p.17.


Ack! How'd I miss that?
*facepalms*

Of note: he also refers to Gately at that point.
"...Donald Gately and I dig up my father's head..."

My humblest apologies for the rant. :oops:
I'll just chalk it up to the detail tornado that I was facing as a first foray into DFW.

Thank you for straightening me out on that.


Don't feel bad. I almost ranted about it myself.
And yeah, as a first time reader, I'm finding I miss things due to simple information overload.

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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:06 pm 
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my favorite "lol" moment of this endnote (in which i actually did laugh out loud) was in the introductory paragraph: "...and lastly that certain of his high-conceptual projects' agendas required that they be titled and subjected to critique but never filmed, making their status as film subject to controversy" (985).

other notes:
near eastern medical attache (992)
hamlet reference: "play within play" (993)

sorry friends, i'm a bit behind...


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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:07 pm 
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I accidently dropped this post into the wrong thread so I'm just cut/pasting it here since someone brought up the question of what relevance there might be to the names of the different film production company names used by DFW.

One thing I wonder about is what meaning there is behind the changes in production studios Himself uses...is it significant, coy, or DFW coming up with different studio names for the sake of coming up with different studio names?

Lactrodectus Mactans is the latin name for the Black Widow Spider.
Poor Yorick is, of course, Hamlet
Meniscus is a curve that can be convex or concave
Heliotrope can refer to a color (pink/purple), an instrument that uses mirrors to reflect sunlight that's used for triangulations in land surveys, plants turning toward the sun.

As to Heliotrope Films Ltd, I'm going with the triangulation instrument meaning of the term since it hits the triangles and mirrors topics IJ seems rife with allusions to.


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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:22 pm 
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So that would make the symbols at the start of most sections a meniscus. I wonder if that has any sort of meaning in and of itself in relationship to JOI's films.


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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:25 pm 
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a heliotrope is also another name for a sunflower.


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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:15 am 
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monsterbeard wrote:
I think there could be an entire game of making up ridiculous additions to endnote 24. I was amazed at how funny it was and how worth it to read.


Once he had the melody in place, Lawrence Raab once wrote about Miles Davis, he could go wherever he wanted, trusting the beautiful would come to him.

Like so many odd pieces of language in this book, I'm almost as amazed by the endnote as I am by the situation that requires and/or allows for the endnote.


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