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Infinite Summer • View topic - P.G.O.A.T.

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where have you seen evidence of a veil suddenly not being there on Joelle or someone else?


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Joelle is also the star of the film Infinite Jest, which seems to be the Entertainment. Perhaps the film is so compelling to watch because it shows Joelle's face?


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Ah the film....... perhaps the Entertainment is so compelling because it shows the many faces of Joelle?


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If we assume that Joelle is anything like the Odalesque (or that she has become the other extreme--Medusa-like from acid-scarring, propeller-blades, or anything other hinted-at disfigurement), then putting her face (filmed with a special James O. Incandenza-invented lens) at the center of a film might indeed suck people in, destroying their minds (which is a very special sort of de-mapping). But all this is still just wild speculation.


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I'm rereading IJ and promise no spoilers. Joelle is far more interesting in this reading than the first and the reread gives rise to questions about her that were never considered the first time through. I've just completed the section where she first meets Orin after his conversion to football (reading somewhat out of order but what the heck... the novel's non-linear anyway) and now agree even more strongly that her father was indeed her Personal Daddy.

One thing I missed the first time through was that when she met Orin she was a "maiden" due to the fact that no one ever summoned the courage to approach her due to her intimidating beauty so perhaps the veil is not hiding a disfigurement but perhaps is a means to keep that beauty from repelling people?

I've actually forgotten enough detail that it's no longer possible to remember how her story unfolds so it will be entertaining to see it develop and this thread along with it.


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oh I like that, fivestring.


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