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 Post subject: Endnotes instead of footnotes and tennis
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:40 am 
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I've been thinking about the use of endnotes v. footnotes. While flipping back and forth between the text and the endnotes, I was reminded of the back and forth head action of tennis match observers, and wondered if anyone else got the same sensation.


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 Post subject: Re: Endnotes instead of footnotes and tennis
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:23 pm 
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Wow good one! I hadn't thought of that.


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 Post subject: Re: Endnotes instead of footnotes and tennis
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:09 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Endnotes instead of footnotes and tennis
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:22 pm 
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yeah, i like that quite a bit.


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 Post subject: Re: Endnotes instead of footnotes and tennis
PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:32 am 
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Runder wrote:
I've been thinking about the use of endnotes v. footnotes. While flipping back and forth between the text and the endnotes, I was reminded of the back and forth head action of tennis match observers, and wondered if anyone else got the same sensation.


Agree.
(Forgive the long quote), this from the New Yorker;

"In Bloomington, Wallace struggled with the size of his book. He hit upon the idea of endnotes to shorten it. In April, 1994, he presented the idea to Pietsch, adding, “I’ve become intensely attached to this strategy and will fight w/all 20 claws to preserve it.” He explained that endnotes “allow . . . me to make the primary-text an easier read while at once 1) allowing a discursive, authorial intrusive style w/o Finneganizing the story, 2) mimic the information-flood and data-triage I expect’d be an even bigger part of US life 15 years hence. 3) have a lot more technical/medical verisimilitude 4) allow/make the reader go literally physically ‘back and forth’ in a way that perhaps cutely mimics some of the story’s thematic concerns . . . 5) feel emotionally like I’m satisfying your request for compression of text without sacrificing enormous amounts of stuff.” He also said, “I pray this is nothing like hypertext, but it seems to be interesting and the best way to get the exfoliating curve-line plot I wanted.” Pietsch countered with an offer of footnotes, which readers would find less cumbersome, but eventually agreed." (my italics).

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009 ... a_fact_max


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 Post subject: Re: Endnotes instead of footnotes and tennis
PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:43 am 
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down the line wrote:
Agree.
(Forgive the long quote), this from the New Yorker;(...)
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009 ... a_fact_max


Thank you very much for this quote.

This conversation came to mind as I was reading IJ, then interrupting that to check the forums, which that inspired me go back to reread the "feral prodigy section", which I commented on on the forums, while at the same time trying to follow a conversation in an instant messenger. This sort of multitasking which we are getting used to reminds me, as well, of the endnotes and tennis, the flipping back and forth thing is kind of becoming our lifestyle.

Which I guess fits into the "2) mimic the information-flood and data-triage I expect’d be an even bigger part of US life 15 years hence" category. And he was right on that.


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 Post subject: Re: Endnotes instead of footnotes and tennis
PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:07 pm 
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Being a tennis fan, this will make flipping back and forth MUCH more pleasant. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Endnotes instead of footnotes and tennis
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:42 am 
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The tennnis analogy is great! This has to be the only book I've ever needed two bookmarks to read.


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