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Formed in the summer of 2009 to read David Foster Wallace's masterwork "Infinite Jest".
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 Post subject: Re: Rotten Things
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:57 pm 
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EverybodyHurts wrote:
One of the overriding sad themes of this book is the fact that so many of these characters have been damaged by their dysfunctional, if not outright horrific, family upbringings. Is there any message of hope here or are we all doomed to be "victims" of our childhood traumas?

Another theme is one of denying the horror, the seriousness of what's in front of their eyes. Acting as if it's perfectly normal. Enabling to the max. Numerous examples of this throughout the book, both before and past the spoiler line.


I think there's definitely a message of hope. AA provides a good example of that - it's a community where people really hear each other and empathize with one another. I forget the page number, but Gately talks about how in AA you're encouraged not to rely on your tragic past as an excuse for your present behavior. It could very well be an explanation, but it should never be a rationalization.


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 Post subject: Rot as part of a cyclical theme?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:42 pm 
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Pemulus' description of Annular Fusion seems to reveal a general theme of the rotten becoming fuel (literally, in this case) for renewal and growth, while recognizing that growth produces its own problems (feral hamsters, infantile giganticism). This large-scale process becomes a cycle as power from Annular Fusion is used to create yet more toxins and garbage that can be used as fuel. I suspect this theme might be repeated in many stories where rot shows up.

EDIT: mjdemo, I just read your post The Annulus in IJ where you made a point similar to this one. Looks like I will be reading through previous posts to avoid more repetition.


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