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 Post subject: Hal, Orin & the Beatles
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:55 am 
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Happened to have the Beatles on iTunes this morning and the song I Want to Tell You from Revolver came on.

Its lyrics go:
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I want to tell you
My head is filled with things to say
When you're here
All those words they seem to slip away

When I get near you
The games begin to drag me down
It's all right
I'll make you maybe next time around

But if I seem to act unkind
It's only me, it's not my mind
That is confusing things

I want to tell you
I feel hung up and I don't know why
I don't mind
I could wait forever, I've got time

Sometimes I wish I knew you well
Then I could speak my mind and tell
Maybe you'd understand

I want to tell you
I feel hung up and I don't know why
I don't mind
I could wait forever, I've got time
I've got time
I've got time


From p. 32 when Orin first calls Hal:
Quote:
'I want to tell you,' the voice on the phone said. 'My head is filled with things to say.'
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'I don't mind,' Hal said softly. 'I could wait forever.'


It does seems to sum up the Hal/Orin conversations pretty well. The song.

I'm now starting to wonder if I'm reading the book a bit too closely. This was almost 200 pages ago...

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 Post subject: Re: Hal, Orin & the Beatles
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:11 am 
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Good catch. Speaking as someone who thinks the Beatles are the bees knees, I am dismayed that it slipped by me.

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 Post subject: Re: Hal, Orin & the Beatles
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:12 am 
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haha! i love this! good catch. something about this book puts my memory centers into overdrive and i find myself flipping back 100 pages to corroborate minor details and coincidents that don't actually mean much and that i probably wouldn't catch in other books.

practical knowledge may be being pushed out of the way for all these details... i couldn't unlock my deadbolt yesterday.


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 Post subject: Re: Hal, Orin & the Beatles
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:37 am 
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Amazing!!


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 Post subject: Re: Hal, Orin & the Beatles
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:15 pm 
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levingard--that was AWESOME. what's so beautiful about it is the randomness of the catch. i don't feel pressure to catch all the intertextual references DFW makes--how could I?--but there's a flash of the uncanny when you recognize an echo from somewhere else. it's a reminder of something--of where this behemoth novel came from, just tiny little fragments, that become a microscopic, fleeting point of connection. love it.


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 Post subject: Re: Hal, Orin & the Beatles
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:29 pm 
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Fantastic!
Thank you for this.

Things like this are why I love this forum. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Hal, Orin & the Beatles
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wow. and really believable that Hal and Orin, with their weird relationship and tendency to ironically screw with each other verbally would knowingly speak in such quotes.


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 Post subject: Re: Hal, Orin & the Beatles
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Greg Carlisle mentions this connection in elegant complexity.


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 Post subject: Re: Hal, Orin & the Beatles
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:14 pm 
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Am I the only one who noticed this immediately upon reading it? surely other people here have heard Revolver...


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 Post subject: Re: Hal, Orin & the Beatles
PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:22 am 
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scottoftheantarctic wrote:
Am I the only one who noticed this immediately upon reading it? surely other people here have heard Revolver...


I know Revolver inside and out, but while reading something as intricately detailed as this, I think parts of my brain shut off, as Dioramaorama was saying, and the book edges out nearly everything else in my mind.


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