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| Author: | OneBigParty [ Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Madame Psychosis on the radio |
Like Avery Edison said about this section in his essay this week: "I can't quite work work out whether I like it or not. Or even I like the idea of her [Madame Psychosis'] show or not." And why, in the PR-circular of the Union of the Hideously and Improbably deformed does DFW include two things that don't belong i.e. "the fatally pulchritudinous" and "odalisques?" Well, I suppose these two categories could fit in with the idea of being "hated," after the fashion of an Ani Difranco song, whose title escapes me, that says that the two most hated people in a room are the ugliest woman and the most beautiful woman. Once you look up all the words, you realize how gross some of the conditions really are, it' s a cornucopia of grossness and also---but this part is de-emphasized--human suffering in extremis because of how other people tend to react to certain types of affliction. DFW makes a point of saying that Madame Psychosis' tone is "reflective but not judgmental somehow." I can't help feeling that he says this because he's trying to influence the way we see her spiel so he's giving us a little spiel himself. The clinicopathological laundry list of the hideous, the twist on a Christimas carol title ("Come All Ye Hateful"), the term "Two-Bagger"--judgmental as hell, if your reading it aloud publicly as one who doesn't have these problems. I kind of think by explicitly saying MP is not judgemental, DFW is trying to have it both ways, to be mean-spirited but trying to have it come off as merely a parade of interesting language. This is not to say that I think DFW was mean-spirited. Did he include the fatally beautiful and odalisques to also make it not seem so? I can sort of see a punk rock college radio show where some hipster reads sections of this pamphlet and cues related tracks (don't ask me to list what they are) on air just to be funny. And why this group MP is reading the circular of "an agnostic-style" 12-step group when in the next Ennet House section endnote 69 states "In none of these Anonymous fellowships anywhere is it possible to avoid confronting the God stuff" ? Is it somehow significant that the aesthetically-challenged don't turn to God in _their_ recovery? I can't say I wasn't impressed by DFW's sheer knowledge of the conditions. I also couldn't help thinking, God forbid that Hitler would have had this command of language and this vocabulary to describe what his idea of a non-Aryan is. So, yeah in the end I don't really know what I feel about it. |
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| Author: | testforecho [ Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Madame Psychosis on the radio |
Having the definitions does help, I agree. I think most of them are at the IJ wiki. |
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| Author: | caroldelucia [ Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Madame Psychosis on the radio |
Where does her opening quote come from?.... "and look at that fucker dance" Her show is a bit like the book.. sections of just lists and then the boring long stuff becomes strngely compelling.. |
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| Author: | MikePemulis [ Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Madame Psychosis on the radio |
| Author: | Olja [ Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Madame Psychosis on the radio |
I've actually kind of liked the Madame Psychosis appearance, as far as the first impressions go. Maybe I was able relate to it because of some of my own experiences with, say, experimental, thematic and conceptual radio shows and alternative culture and underground media-aware figures in general and the GP-O's Psychic TV line of thinking etc. I have also found it vaguely entertaining that so many other readers have disliked that bit. It made me think of how differently must we perceive this book, or any reading material, of course, and how it is pretty much impossible to imagine how anything "reads" like to anyone else. P.S.: What did you think of 'Those Were the Legends That Formerly Were'? |
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| Author: | OneBigParty [ Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Madame Psychosis on the radio |
I do really like her name though, how it sounds like metempsychosis. Metempsychosis refers to transmigration of the soul e.g. reincarnation after death, wherein the same soul inhabits in succession different bodies of people or animals. Usually used only in Greek philosophy although the concept of transmigration of souls has been part of many different religions globally, especially Eastern religions. The term is also found in Joyce's Ulysses. |
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| Author: | OneBigParty [ Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Madame Psychosis on the radio |
The picturing of the ironic dj interspersing punkrock with the grotesquerie I know is way off base though and something must be missing here because DFW *hated* irony. |
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| Author: | OneBigParty [ Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Madame Psychosis on the radio |
Whoops forgot to finish my post. Or *does* he (i.e hate irony)? I never read any of his fiction before and I'm a little confused about this. |
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| Author: | storm [ Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Madame Psychosis on the radio |
| Author: | Jeffrey Manor [ Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Madame Psychosis on the radio |
A big THANK YOU to OneBigParty for picking up that Madame Psychosis sounds like metempsychosis, a term used in Ullysses - Molly Bloom has an interest in the word when she reads it in a pornographic novel and Leopold has to explain it to her. I've been picking up many nods to Joyce but missed that one. |
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