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 Post subject: the 'entertainment' cartridge
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:22 pm 
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thought it might be infinite jest v from the start, now pretty positive after what the agents said. Any other ideas?


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 Post subject: Re: the 'entertainment' cartridge
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I agree with you on that. Particularly given the title.

But then I'm wondering... how would anyone ever create a work that left one in such a state without being left in said state themselves? But I couldn't help reading about the Medical Attache with rapt fascination.


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 Post subject: Re: the 'entertainment' cartridge
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And critics, according to the footnote, have reviewed it as "extraordinary", etc. How could have the critics gotten away scot-free?


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 Post subject: Re: the 'entertainment' cartridge
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Maybe it had super-optic hypnotic qualities? (half kidding)


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 Post subject: Re: the 'entertainment' cartridge
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Hugh G. Rection wrote:
And critics, according to the footnote, have reviewed it as "extraordinary", etc. How could have the critics gotten away scot-free?


I think it also says in that footnote that no one has ever actually seen it: "Though no scholarly synopsis or report of viewing exists, two short essays in different issues of Cartridge Quarterly East refer to the film as 'extraordinary' {d} and 'far and away [James O. Incandenza's] most enteratining and compelling work.' {e}" (993).

So, is it possible that the critics hadn't actually seen it but were passing on something they'd heard about the film?

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 Post subject: Re: the 'entertainment' cartridge
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wheat wrote:
So, is it possible that the critics hadn't actually seen it but were passing on something they'd heard about the film?


And also, the title of the second article cited is "Seeing v. Believing."


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troybob wrote:
wheat wrote:
So, is it possible that the critics hadn't actually seen it but were passing on something they'd heard about the film?


And also, the title of the second article cited is "Seeing v. Believing."


Nice catch. Isn't it also possible that he's having fun at the expense of critics here? The assumption being that it doesn't work on critics because they're incapable of being entertained, hence immune to "the entertainment" and entertainment in general?

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 Post subject: Re: the 'entertainment' cartridge
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And to wheat's point, the Entertainment works when it's watched by people who are ready to unhook/become uninvilved in their own internal life ... a willing audience is maybe the key to why it works. This wouldn't be inconsistent with the overall message of "Pay attention to what you pay attention to," In fact the Entertainment isn't too far away in its essence from mindlessly flipping through channels even when you know that you'd be happier doing whatever.

As to the critics' commentary on the film IJ V, if I had to guess, that could be a jab at critics in general who often review books (music, architecture, restaurants, et al) with little more than a passing glance. DFW would have had no little experience in having his work (mis/under)analyzed by a critical community that focused solely on his word choice, his age and all the other factors that seem to form the corpus of the early lit crit we see on him. As Himself had become an established - albeit nearly incomprehensible - filmmaker, it would be easy as a critic to go into Infinite Jest V with all of the previous versions working as a filter ... how possibly could a work stand on its own when examined in an intellectually unvigorous way as we might see from a critic who's covering "4 Boffo Beach Books!" in Entertainment Weekly.

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 Post subject: Re: the 'entertainment' cartridge
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Sorlo09 wrote:
thought it might be infinite jest v from the start, now pretty positive after what the agents said. Any other ideas?


Just re-read 87 - 95 and I'm curious what you picked up in that section? Not that I disagree per se as this seems to be a commonly held belief, I just feel like i'm missing something.

The only thing I picked up on in that section that even connects the entertainment to JOI was this line 'The husband was on board over at A.E.C.' (page 91, referenced p82)


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 Post subject: Re: the 'entertainment' cartridge
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pg. 91
"...victim's prior possible involvement with the widow of the auteur we both know was responsible for the Entertainment in the first place."


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