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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:17 am 
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The only thing I have to add re: DFW's attention to detail is that a few movies didn't compute in length. For instance: "Kinds of Light" is listed at 3 minutes long but 4,444 individual frames. Film is normally shot and projected at 24 frames per second (with the exception of slo-mo or fast motion). At this rate, 24 frames per second times 60 seconds per minute times 3 minutes should equal 4320 frames. Not 4444.

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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
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Some of the films note being projected at fractions of normal speed. It's also mentioned that the running times are rounded to the nearest minute.

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The only thing I have to add re: DFW's attention to detail is that a few movies didn't compute in length. For instance: "Kinds of Light" is listed at 3 minutes long but 4,444 individual frames. Film is normally shot and projected at 24 frames per second (with the exception of slo-mo or fast motion). At this rate, 24 frames per second times 60 seconds per minute times 3 minutes should equal 4320 frames. Not 4444.

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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
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A little joke in the filmography is the character/actress Soma Richardson-Levy-O'Byrne-Chawaf, who keeps getting married again and extending her hyphenated name. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
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rasnider wrote:
Some of the films note being projected at fractions of normal speed. It's also mentioned that the running times are rounded to the nearest minute.

jur777 wrote:
The only thing I have to add re: DFW's attention to detail is that a few movies didn't compute in length. For instance: "Kinds of Light" is listed at 3 minutes long but 4,444 individual frames. Film is normally shot and projected at 24 frames per second (with the exception of slo-mo or fast motion). At this rate, 24 frames per second times 60 seconds per minute times 3 minutes should equal 4320 frames. Not 4444.

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Ahem. The referenced film is Kinds of Light, p986, and we can certainly attribute to rounding error the difference between the expected and reported number of frames. However, also see Kinds of Pain, p987, which is reported to be 2,222 frames but six minutes. Yet both films "REQUIRE[] PROJECTION AT .25 NORMAL SPROCKET-DRIVE".

Mistake or deliberate contradiction?

As a mistake it's boring, but the only deliberate reason I can imagine is DFW messing with us nerds. His privilege and I begrudge it not.

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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
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Rrose Selavy (hah! great reference!), Latrodectus mactans is the black widow spider. (I didn't have to look it up; yes, I am a spider geek!)


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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
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RroseSelavy wrote:
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"Poor Yorick" (name of production company) is another Hamlet reference, so the references are not just limited to Hal (who digs up his father's skull) but are also there with Himself (who presumably named the production co.).
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I recommend you reread it so it is very clear. :x

Please please, keep spoilers in the general discussion forum. I was looking forward to finding out if/who's skull gets dug up, enjoying each new char introduction and considering Hamlet tie-ins. That's one connection I guess I can cross off my list.

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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
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Ahem. The referenced film is Kinds of Light, p986, and we can certainly attribute to rounding error the difference between the expected and reported number of frames. However, also see Kinds of Pain, p987, which is reported to be 2,222 frames but six minutes. Yet both films "REQUIRE[] PROJECTION AT .25 NORMAL SPROCKET-DRIVE".

Mistake or deliberate contradiction?

As a mistake it's boring, but the only deliberate reason I can imagine is DFW messing with us nerds. His privilege and I begrudge it not.


Yeah, I didn't actually work out the specific math. I just wanted to point out that some are indeed supposed to be variably projected.
Another deliberative possibility is that the whole filmography falls into that unreliable narrator category (remember it is quoted from a book within the IJ universe).


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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
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josh71 wrote:
A little joke in the filmography is the character/actress Soma Richardson-Levy-O'Byrne-Chawaf, who keeps getting married again and extending her hyphenated name. :D


I'm so glad someone else noticed that. It's one of the inscrutable details that makes this whole filmography so amazing and hysterical.

Another favorite: "Very Low Impact... A narcoleptic aerobics instructor struggles to hide her condition from students and employers."

Fantastic.

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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
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Did you notice the LARGE ORANGE BANNER at the top of the page?
I recommend you reread it so it is very clear. :x

Please please, keep spoilers in the general discussion forum. I was looking forward to finding out if/who's skull gets dug up, enjoying each new char introduction and considering Hamlet tie-ins. That's one connection I guess I can cross off my list.

:([/quote]


Hal mentioned digging up his father's head on p.17.


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 Post subject: Re: Endnote 24
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:42 am 
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I think that endnote 24 is just pure hilarity throughout. Being a huge cinephile doesn't hurt, but I actually laughed out loud at most of the titles and descriptions, and on the train at that.


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