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 Post subject: Re: The Sponsored-Year Concept
PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:47 pm 
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Wasn't there one about a Perdue Stuffed Chicken?

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 Post subject: Re: The Sponsored-Year Concept
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This to me is one of the funniest motifs in the book. The fact that today we have sports stadiums and concert halls named after big corporate conglomerates (there is a Dunkin Donuts Center in R.I.- is there any name more ridiculous than that?) leads me to believe that soon there will be corporations vying for the right to name the months and years!

I see these silly corporate names sometimes and remark to my friends "see The Year of the Depend Adult Undergarment" isn't too far away really".


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 Post subject: Re: The Sponsored-Year Concept
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:18 pm 
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Camasal wrote:
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deafgeek wrote: "Things such as Hal being 18 in the Year of Glad, and almost 13 in the Year of the Tucks Medicated Pad."


Is Hal almost 13 on 1 April - Year of the Tucks Medicated Pad? The "professional conversationalist" says his (Hal's) dad listed him as fourteen but Hal says, "I'll be eleven in June." Does the fact that it's April Fool's Day matter? Or that Hal starts to suspect the P.C. is actually his dad? Page 31: "Is this April Fools, Dad, or do I need to call the Moms and C.T.?"

I marked a bunch of stuff in the "professional conversationalist" passage.

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Camasal, which version are you reading? I think I remember there being a discrepancy between versions. I've got the hardcover in front of me, and page 27 has "I'll be thirteen in June" from Hal. I think the age question, with either the 1 or 3 year difference between what the PC / Himself says and reality is more based on Himself's general status as a really horrible father.

Slightly back on topic, here's what I have so far for the years, in what I think is chronological order.

    Year of the Whopper
    Year of the Tucks Medicated Pad
    Year of the Trial-Size Dove Bar
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???
    Year of the Depends Adult Undergarment
    Year of the Glad

Plus, I've got Year of the Perdue Wonderchicken and Year of the Whisper-Quiet Maytag Dishmaster. Not sure yet where they'll fit in. This list look right to everyone else?


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 Post subject: Re: The Sponsored-Year Concept
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hey deafgeek, just chiming in to say I've mapped out the Sponsored timeline identically to you so far.

Also adding that Hal is 18 in the Year of Glad (at time of UA admissions interview), and turning 11 in the Year of the Tucks Medicated Pad (as per professional conversationalist episode).


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 Post subject: Re: The Sponsored-Year Concept
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Weird...I am reading from the 1997 paperback, in which he tells the conversationalist he'll be 11 in June.

I would also like to point out the hilarity of the Statue of Liberty's commercialized use in the subsidization scheme. Marathe describes the statue wearing a huge adult diaper in YDAU... I can only imagine what she looked like in the Year of the Tucks Medicated Pad!


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 Post subject: Re: The Sponsored-Year Concept
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Huh. My wife has my 1997 paperback copy right now, but I do remember vaguely that Hal was turning 11 in the professional conversation scene as well. I wonder if we need a new thread about the discrepancies between versions. Anybody have the 2006 paperback that can give us how old Hal is there?


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 Post subject: Re: The Sponsored-Year Concept
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I have the 2006 paperback with the forward by David Eggers and Hal will be 11 in June. There's a thread in the General Discussions>>Hardcover/Paperback thread that addresses this...the quote is apparently from the IJ Wiki
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Wallace altered some details between the original and paperback editions of the book. For instance, in the first edition, during Hal's conversation with his disguised father, he claims that he'll be "thirteen in June." However, in the paperback edition, this is altered to "eleven in June."


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 Post subject: Re: The Sponsored-Year Concept
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Certainly part of it is the whole quasi-dystopian corporate-U.S.A. joke, but it also serves to heighten the confused and fragmentary sense of the narrative.
I also keep thinking to that opening "Year of Glad," before we realize this is some kind of corporate-sponsored weird takeover of the calender, it just sounds sort of like the year is a happy, upbeat one. But from what we've seen so far, it doesn't really seem that way. There's a lot of irony and multiple meaning going on with that one.


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 Post subject: Re: The Sponsored-Year Concept
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One more for the subsidized year list. Footnote a to endnote 24 mentions Year of the D.P. from the A.H.

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 Post subject: Re: The Sponsored-Year Concept
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Thanks, levingard. I completely missed that one this re-read. Of course, now I remember what the initials stand for, but I don't think we've seen it in the past 105 pages yet. I'll just add it to my personal notes for now, unless asked.


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