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| Author: | JosephFinn [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Quebecois V. French |
Is there that much of a difference between Quebecois and Parisian French that someone would not recognize Quebecois, especially if spoken nasally, as French? |
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| Author: | CodyVanDer [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Quebecois V. French |
I assume while I'm reading the book that it's similar to the difference between American English and English English. My family has a friend who lives in Spain that comes over to visit us in the U.S. every once in a while. She's really good at English, but still struggles for the first little bit when she comes because she learned English from a British teacher. Different inflections, different slang words, etc. kind of throw her off for the first little bit before she adjusts to the American version of English versus the British version she was taught. As a non-native speaker, it's harder to pick up on the dialect. Apparently it works the same with Spanish. One night she asked me to set up the TV for English subtitles and Spanish audio. When she heard it she screamed "AAAHHHH! Not Mexican Spanish! That is so UGLY!" Apparently the Spanish you hear throughout Latin America is considerably different than the Spanish in Spain. Not to mention the 13 Chinese dialects listed in Ethnologue: Languages of the World... |
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| Author: | ggchamplin [ Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Quebecois V. French |
| Author: | isabella [ Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Quebecois V. French |
There are some big differences between the Frenches of Quebec and of France! Much bigger than those between British and American English! And allegedly moreso than among varieties of Spanish and Portuguese. Wikipedia has a pretty good overview of Quebec French here: Essentially, Quebecois is much like the French spoken in France a few hundred years ago. Since colonization, the languages have evolved separately. I had little trouble understanding France French on the basis of what I'd learned at school, but Quebec French was to my ear at first near unintelligible (a little clearer now after living in its midst for many years). Anecdotally, in Paris a few years ago, my other half (a Quebecer) was asked to repeat everything he said. My own Canadian/Polish accent was perceived as more "neutral" and was more readily understood. Apart from the issue of pronunciation, vocabulary and usage can also differ widely. I don't think it's fair to say it's more slang, as that's a judgemental term. In fact, one could argue that Quebec French is more French, by insisting on Frenchifying words that are the world over borrowed from English; for example, la fin de semaine for le weekend, and courriel for email. There are differences enough to have caused a diplomatic incident this past winter. Here's the best summary in English I could find of this particular faux pas: |
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| Author: | tomcollins [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Quebecois V. French |
Hello and salut! I would like to respond to your query in terms of the novel. The most striking difference between Quebecois and French is at the heart of the novel's plot. In French, we say "fauteuils roulants." In Quebec, except if the author is having us on, they say 'fauteuils rollents." Anyone happening upon the novel, and who speaks french, is astounded to see this discrepancy between rolling and rolling. |
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| Author: | isabella [ Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Quebecois V. French |
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