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		<title>By: Hannah Swithinbank &#187; something I have been waiting my whole life for.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah Swithinbank &#187; something I have been waiting my whole life for.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mid-90s, and set in the future. In fact, The Year of the Depend Adult Undergarment may actually be this year. But of course, the world has changed rather dramatically since the mid-90s, w/r/t the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Foster Wallace–[Week 6] Infinite Jest (1996) &#171; I Just Read About That&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster Wallace–[Week 6] Infinite Jest (1996) &#171; I Just Read About That&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as they talk about things being different in the new millennium.  Although Matthew Baldwin&#8217;s argument here is very convincing which would make Subsidization begin in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Buggy</title>
		<link>http://infinitesummer.org/archives/816/comment-page-1#comment-1837</link>
		<dc:creator>Buggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: science fiction?

Michael Chabon, who I&#039;m sure is a careful reader, loved this book. In &quot;Maps &amp; Legends&quot;, he essentially whinges (Love that word) for 200 pages about our need to dump books into buckets ... claiming that once you put the little rocket ship on the spine of the book in the library or bookstore, no one will read it ... sometimes out of embarrassment, sometimes because they assume the category is full of cruft. Chabon said the only reason The Road wasn&#039;t science fiction was because it won the Pulitzer. This is sci-fi the same way zombie films are ... using a debatably plausible premise to pass commentary on society today, as we know it.

I consider this book a warning (and DFW&#039;s terminal unhappiness with this world the &quot;!!!!!&quot; at the end of the warning). In that sense, this book HAS to be set in the near future, where you can extrapolate enough to see that the water you&#039;re sitting is indeed getting closer to a boil, but not so far in the future that the outcome is inevitable.

I also think the book is one big ink-blot test. Everyone is unhappy with some aspect of the book, but the number of camps of unhappiness exceeds the number of pages in the tome. The fact that this is so many different books to so many different people just makes me love it that much more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: science fiction?</p>
<p>Michael Chabon, who I&#8217;m sure is a careful reader, loved this book. In &#8220;Maps &amp; Legends&#8221;, he essentially whinges (Love that word) for 200 pages about our need to dump books into buckets &#8230; claiming that once you put the little rocket ship on the spine of the book in the library or bookstore, no one will read it &#8230; sometimes out of embarrassment, sometimes because they assume the category is full of cruft. Chabon said the only reason The Road wasn&#8217;t science fiction was because it won the Pulitzer. This is sci-fi the same way zombie films are &#8230; using a debatably plausible premise to pass commentary on society today, as we know it.</p>
<p>I consider this book a warning (and DFW&#8217;s terminal unhappiness with this world the &#8220;!!!!!&#8221; at the end of the warning). In that sense, this book HAS to be set in the near future, where you can extrapolate enough to see that the water you&#8217;re sitting is indeed getting closer to a boil, but not so far in the future that the outcome is inevitable.</p>
<p>I also think the book is one big ink-blot test. Everyone is unhappy with some aspect of the book, but the number of camps of unhappiness exceeds the number of pages in the tome. The fact that this is so many different books to so many different people just makes me love it that much more.</p>
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		<title>By: andthenyoufall</title>
		<link>http://infinitesummer.org/archives/816/comment-page-1#comment-1753</link>
		<dc:creator>andthenyoufall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worth noting that just below the line you point out, Todeswalzer, Hal makes &lt;i&gt;another&lt;/i&gt; mistake (which O. corrects), and once again it&#039;s a mistake where Hal says something that is incredibly precise. (Hal&#039;s reply to O.? &quot;How embarassing. When the skills go, they &lt;i&gt;go&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;)

There are undoubtedly other weird things going on with the narrative&#039;s chronology but for this case, DFW is hitting us over the head with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth noting that just below the line you point out, Todeswalzer, Hal makes <i>another</i> mistake (which O. corrects), and once again it&#8217;s a mistake where Hal says something that is incredibly precise. (Hal&#8217;s reply to O.? &#8220;How embarassing. When the skills go, they <i>go</i>.&#8221;)</p>
<p>There are undoubtedly other weird things going on with the narrative&#8217;s chronology but for this case, DFW is hitting us over the head with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice reference to Vonnegut.  I read DFW and think of Vonnegut and Heller.  He&#039;s got a very similar tone.  

I&#039;ve been reading these posts thinking about Farenheit 451 and his reference to the earpiece telephones (&quot;seashells&quot; I believe? Someone correct me what he called them . . . but Bluetooth anyone?).  He also talked about folks installing TVs on every wall in their home?  That&#039;s not Sci Fi, that&#039;s insight/foresight, esp since that was written a half a century ago.

DFW, et al, are simply commenting on the future of American society.  Farenheit 451 to me was not science fiction, but rather a clever commentary on where we are heading.  1984 spoke of cameras everywhere and that war is peace.  Hmm.  Sound familiar anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice reference to Vonnegut.  I read DFW and think of Vonnegut and Heller.  He&#8217;s got a very similar tone.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading these posts thinking about Farenheit 451 and his reference to the earpiece telephones (&#8221;seashells&#8221; I believe? Someone correct me what he called them . . . but Bluetooth anyone?).  He also talked about folks installing TVs on every wall in their home?  That&#8217;s not Sci Fi, that&#8217;s insight/foresight, esp since that was written a half a century ago.</p>
<p>DFW, et al, are simply commenting on the future of American society.  Farenheit 451 to me was not science fiction, but rather a clever commentary on where we are heading.  1984 spoke of cameras everywhere and that war is peace.  Hmm.  Sound familiar anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DFW spends a fair amount of time discussing Barth in the Bookworm interview. Chimera is one of the works he cites. A link to the interview transcript is http://web.archive.org/web/20040606041906/www.andbutso.com/~mark/bookworm96/

If you want to listen to DFW on Bookworm re IJ and other books, you can access the podcasts on http://www.kcrw.com/etc/david-foster-wallace

With respect to other posts supra, as far as DFW being sloppy with the text, losing control of the timeline, and so much more in IJ, DFW says the following in a comment starting at 9:38 into the Bookworm interview: 

...I worked harder on this than anything I&#039;ve ever done in my life and there&#039;s nothing in there by accident and there have already been some readers and reviewers that see it as kind of a mess, and as kind of random, and I just have to sort of shrug my shoulders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DFW spends a fair amount of time discussing Barth in the Bookworm interview. Chimera is one of the works he cites. A link to the interview transcript is <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20040606041906/www.andbutso.com/~mark/bookworm96/" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/20040606041906/www.andbutso.com/~mark/bookworm96/</a></p>
<p>If you want to listen to DFW on Bookworm re IJ and other books, you can access the podcasts on <a href="http://www.kcrw.com/etc/david-foster-wallace" rel="nofollow">http://www.kcrw.com/etc/david-foster-wallace</a></p>
<p>With respect to other posts supra, as far as DFW being sloppy with the text, losing control of the timeline, and so much more in IJ, DFW says the following in a comment starting at 9:38 into the Bookworm interview: </p>
<p>&#8230;I worked harder on this than anything I&#8217;ve ever done in my life and there&#8217;s nothing in there by accident and there have already been some readers and reviewers that see it as kind of a mess, and as kind of random, and I just have to sort of shrug my shoulders.</p>
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		<title>By: Octopus Grigori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Octopus Grigori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt: I think they would be written contracts (though there&#039;s likely a lack of &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=wdC19X8AD3gC&amp;pg=PT101&amp;lpg=PT101&amp;dq=promises+consideration&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=ycrWcqNJqv&amp;sig=Sd44X0GgpF9aw-4nc6RSg3dLcE0&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=WSleSp_hIJCOtAPniKygCg&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=10&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;consideration&lt;/a&gt; to make the promises enforceable).  That is to say, they are gratuitous promises made without consideration (anything received in return by the promisor or given up by the promisee(s)).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt: I think they would be written contracts (though there&#8217;s likely a lack of <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=wdC19X8AD3gC&amp;pg=PT101&amp;lpg=PT101&amp;dq=promises+consideration&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=ycrWcqNJqv&amp;sig=Sd44X0GgpF9aw-4nc6RSg3dLcE0&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=WSleSp_hIJCOtAPniKygCg&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=10" rel="nofollow">consideration</a> to make the promises enforceable).  That is to say, they are gratuitous promises made without consideration (anything received in return by the promisor or given up by the promisee(s)).</p>
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		<title>By: Matt (not that Matt)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt (not that Matt)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think President Gentle/the U.S./the O.N.A.N. could force other countries to use Subsidized Time year-names. The maker of the upgrade is probably Japanese, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think President Gentle/the U.S./the O.N.A.N. could force other countries to use Subsidized Time year-names. The maker of the upgrade is probably Japanese, right?</p>
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		<title>By: matthewbaldwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthewbaldwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I’ll stop posting after this ...&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;My last post on this as well ...&lt;/em&gt;

Please note that these are binding verbal contracts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I’ll stop posting after this &#8230;</em></p>
<p><em>My last post on this as well &#8230;</em></p>
<p>Please note that these are binding verbal contracts.</p>
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		<title>By: stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just FYI: I&#039;m reading Infinite Jest for the first time.</description>
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